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they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they did. and they lost. >> exactly >> bill: they got busted. they lost their ass. so now, they refuse to recognize there was an election. right? they refuse to accept the results of the election. >> you are completely right. beyond that point, i don't think they need the 80 tea party members to vote with them. they just need a coalition >> bill: you know what they need? they need to schedule a vote. >> exactly. >> bill: that's what boehner has to do. >> that's what he won't do >> bill: there is no doubt in my mind if he scheduled a vote at this point, enough republicans would join democrats to pass the tax cut for 98% of the american people. >> i completely agree with you. i think beyond that, if you put a vote right now on the floor to end sequestration, there will be a lot of democrats to come on board and a lot of republicans. wh
they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they did. and they lost. >> exactly >> bill: they got busted. they lost their ass. so now, they refuse to recognize there was an election. right? they refuse to accept the results of the election. >> you are completely right....
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right? because the winner got 326. oops, that's right the winner was barack obama not mitt romney. so what about karl rove and dick morris? michael calderone is the senior media reporter for "huffington post" joining us on our news line this morning. michael, we're not going to see him for awhile, huh? >> yes. i think -- i know you're missing him. but i don't think we'll see these guys for a little while. >> bill: here's the deal. i was chatting with some of our friends in the media last night at the white house is this roger ailes just kind of playing games and a little -- this is just a temporary retrieve because people aren't that interested in presidential politics anymore but they'll stay around and they'll be eventually be back on fox? >> well, say what you will about roger ailes. we know he's a genius when it comes to programming and trying to shift fox news to bring in ratings and he did this after the 2008 election. fox's ratings have been slipping during the end of the bush years and they had to reposition themselves. they went with glenn beck right around inauguration da
right? because the winner got 326. oops, that's right the winner was barack obama not mitt romney. so what about karl rove and dick morris? michael calderone is the senior media reporter for "huffington post" joining us on our news line this morning. michael, we're not going to see him for awhile, huh? >> yes. i think -- i know you're missing him. but i don't think we'll see these guys for a little while. >> bill: here's the deal. i was chatting with some of our friends in...
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obama's taken $716 from medicare and the republicans are going to protect it, right? after the election, mind you listen to this, entitlement reform means and everybody in washington knows this, the reporting absolutely confirms it. i just want you to be clear on this. it means cutting medicare, medicate and social security. so they wouldn't do entitlement reform after the election, would they? let's find out. >> entitlement reform. >> reform the entitlements. >> it's couped with real entitlement reform. >> it's going to take cuts in entitlements. >> only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> change the model for medicare for the long term. >> without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it's going to be impossible to address our countries debt crisis. >> shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers of hurry debt. >> cenk: i that the you were going to protect entitlements like medicare. turns out your intention was and you are now insisting that they be cut instead. by the way who's going to aid and abet them, of course, cnn. >> those entitlements
obama's taken $716 from medicare and the republicans are going to protect it, right? after the election, mind you listen to this, entitlement reform means and everybody in washington knows this, the reporting absolutely confirms it. i just want you to be clear on this. it means cutting medicare, medicate and social security. so they wouldn't do entitlement reform after the election, would they? let's find out. >> entitlement reform. >> reform the entitlements. >> it's couped...
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president obama came up with a new proposal. it's the same as the old proposal. you know why? the republicans did not have a new one. all right i'll resubmit it for you. $1.6 trillion in tax increases over ten years. $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending. he was rubbing their nose in it, yeah i want more stimulus. how do you like me now. no congressional votes to raise for debt ceiling and $400 billion in long-term savings from medicare. republicans, conservatives oh, they're we side be side themselves. >> the proposal delivered by secretary geithner was not a serious proposal. >> it was not a serious proposal. >> we got to get serious here. >> serious decisions. >> say it isn't so, mr. speaker. >> serious matter. we're being serious. this is not a serious offer. >> this is an insulting deal. >> this is not a game. >> i'm not trying to make this difficult. >> that offer yesterday was simply not serious. we're not going to increase tax rates. >> and that's just the way it is. >> cenk: i love that. >> seriously. >> cenk: yes seriously--everybody get serious. our position is
president obama came up with a new proposal. it's the same as the old proposal. you know why? the republicans did not have a new one. all right i'll resubmit it for you. $1.6 trillion in tax increases over ten years. $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending. he was rubbing their nose in it, yeah i want more stimulus. how do you like me now. no congressional votes to raise for debt ceiling and $400 billion in long-term savings from medicare. republicans, conservatives oh, they're we side be...
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>> obama: i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> stephanie: oh please, how many times do you think that boehner drunk dials the president? i'm so flabbergasted! >> get off the phone! >> john, put the phone down. >> stephanie: he drunk dials him. >> john, get away from the phone. we're not going to let you do this. john, stop it. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. [farting sound] >> stephanie: it is -- >> it is not a secret. we can't say it in public or we'll get run out of town. >> stephanie: harry reid again. >> arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. it is arithmetic. >> a little animated there. >> it is amazing what -- you know changing the laws on the -- the rules on the filibuster will do to your virility. >> stephanie: senator mitch. >> we wasted an enormous amount of time here sparr
>> obama: i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> stephanie: oh please, how many times do you think that boehner drunk dials the president? i'm so flabbergasted! >> get off the phone! >> john, put the phone down. >> stephanie: he drunk dials him. >> john, get away from the phone. we're not going to let you do this. john, stop it. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual...
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> stephanie: that's horribly racist right there. he won a second time because he's black. two landslides. yeah. okay. eric bolling on the 5. a little bob costas bashing. >> i saw this tragedy happen. saturday morning i saw it. i was like how long before someone, someone uses that pulpit to say it has to be head trauma or something else like gun control. i never expected nbc to allow bob costas to come out and do something on their national -- costas is a coward though. he didn't even say he believes this. he said he agrees with ken though. it was his assessment of it. it wasn't even his own thought process. >> stephanie: right. >> agree with someone that is your thought process. if you say that lincoln freed the slaves and i dare say the nfl player was a coward in that situation -- >> stephanie: some people have said worse things on football broadcasts, for instance like rush limbaugh. >> 69% of new york state residents believe climate change was responsible for hurricane sandy. according to a sienna research institute poll that was
> stephanie: that's horribly racist right there. he won a second time because he's black. two landslides. yeah. okay. eric bolling on the 5. a little bob costas bashing. >> i saw this tragedy happen. saturday morning i saw it. i was like how long before someone, someone uses that pulpit to say it has to be head trauma or something else like gun control. i never expected nbc to allow bob costas to come out and do something on their national -- costas is a coward though. he didn't even...
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and president obama right? >> we were talking right before the show that they're discounting the provisional ballots which are these contested ballots when people vote on election day and there's some question whether they're registered or whether they're -- it is not the voter's fault. it is board of elections fault. there were a couple hundred thousand at least of those. they're just finishing them. and it gave the president we think, another 50,000, 6,000 or 70,000 vote margin from what we had before. these are votes that the election machinery in ohio now has -- the people running it have a partisan edge to them. when i was secretary of state in the '80s, we didn't have that. they've about provisional balloting. >> bill: they tried to shut down the early voting for the last weekend before the election except for military families. >> judge said they couldn't. in many ways, it probably backfired because i heard a lot of people say that in the churches and other places, people were saying ministers and others
and president obama right? >> we were talking right before the show that they're discounting the provisional ballots which are these contested ballots when people vote on election day and there's some question whether they're registered or whether they're -- it is not the voter's fault. it is board of elections fault. there were a couple hundred thousand at least of those. they're just finishing them. and it gave the president we think, another 50,000, 6,000 or 70,000 vote margin from...
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, right. absolutely. jim in politico, mcconnell and obama overcome bad blood? they're not fond of each other. really. before thanksgiving mcconnell mcconnell's blunt message in a private phone call to president obama. only four out of 120 kentucky counties. [ huh ] he was warning obama of the mounting campaign to avert the fiscal cliff backfire because he lost counties in kentucky. >> you didn't win any counties in kentucky so you're a big loser. >> stephanie: the frosty relationship between the two of them. they rarely met or spoke privately since obama moved into the oval office. do you think he knocks on on the door every now and then? come on, mitch don't be like that. [ knocking on the door ] >> he's withholding from me. >> stephanie: is that what the atrium sounds like? >> i'm going back to the galapagos islands. >> stephanie: for christmas to visit family. john fugelsang fridays with fugalsang next on "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: h
, right. absolutely. jim in politico, mcconnell and obama overcome bad blood? they're not fond of each other. really. before thanksgiving mcconnell mcconnell's blunt message in a private phone call to president obama. only four out of 120 kentucky counties. [ huh ] he was warning obama of the mounting campaign to avert the fiscal cliff backfire because he lost counties in kentucky. >> you didn't win any counties in kentucky so you're a big loser. >> stephanie: the frosty...
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. >> is obama care a problem? >> it is -- it is going -- i think it is going to be a problem at some point. there's still a lot of unknowns with what obama care is going to mean to most. the average moe's franchisee has 25 employees. if i'm a franchisee with one restaurant it won't affect me with the 50 basis employee base. if i have ten restaurants, it is -- absolutely going to affect. we are thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% to 7% of labor cost. we can see a negative increase there. >> some people are -- some companies are charging their employees more because of obama care and other companies are limiting the amount of people they hire. are you doing either of those? >>, no we are not. we have a wait and see mentality right now. our job is to educate the franchise community and keep them informed and educated so they can take the right decisions when those times come. right now we are not doing anything. we are not taking any -- drastic action with obama care. >> i want to ask you if your growth is l
. >> is obama care a problem? >> it is -- it is going -- i think it is going to be a problem at some point. there's still a lot of unknowns with what obama care is going to mean to most. the average moe's franchisee has 25 employees. if i'm a franchisee with one restaurant it won't affect me with the 50 basis employee base. if i have ten restaurants, it is -- absolutely going to affect. we are thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% to 7% of labor cost. we can see a negative...
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there's no official meetings right now between the white house and congressional leaders. of course, there are meetings going on behind the scenes and contacts between the white house and congressional republicans but nothing official. president obama is taking this sort of outside strategy where as we saw him last week he goes outside of washington. he'll be giving remarks to the business roundtable this week, meeting with business leaders tomorrow. other stakeholders this week and he's trying to kind of put some pressure on congress and learn from a mistake that he made you might say during say the debt ceiling negotiations where you saw these meetings with congressional leaders but there really wasn't a whole lot of payoff and didn't make the president look particularly effective. an issue to be resolved is to tackle entitlement reform. you have the white house and republicans saying you need to put meat on the bones and going back and forth. listen to what republican senator bob corker said. >> i think the really discussions around the fiscal cliff haven't even begun t
there's no official meetings right now between the white house and congressional leaders. of course, there are meetings going on behind the scenes and contacts between the white house and congressional republicans but nothing official. president obama is taking this sort of outside strategy where as we saw him last week he goes outside of washington. he'll be giving remarks to the business roundtable this week, meeting with business leaders tomorrow. other stakeholders this week and he's trying...
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president obama's is much more modst. but it does lead us beginning in the right direction. we are very -- my organization is very much supporting both the schakowsky and conniers bill. and the american jobs act from president obama as well. we are working to try to get attention in the congress to those measures. and i think it's important to -- to simply make the point that although jobs are coming back in the private sector, the government has an important role to play in creating a massive jobs program that will generate the kind of consumer demand that will then cause the private sector to really start staffing up in a way that we need them to staff up to have full employment. but that should be the goal. full employment. >> terry, going back to the fiscal slope negotiations, there's basically no women really involved in the high level negotiations. nancy pelosi is sort of a side player as she was in the debt ceiling negotiations. research has shown that female legislators attract more co-sponsors for their bills, indicating they're better at consensus building. other r
president obama's is much more modst. but it does lead us beginning in the right direction. we are very -- my organization is very much supporting both the schakowsky and conniers bill. and the american jobs act from president obama as well. we are working to try to get attention in the congress to those measures. and i think it's important to -- to simply make the point that although jobs are coming back in the private sector, the government has an important role to play in creating a massive...
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right now the obama approach is to go hold this rally in philadelphia in allyson schwartz's district, a democrat, and somehow it's going to change the minds of house republican. you've just been re-elected in a year of close to 65 million votes. you're probably going to be okay in which turnout's going to be significantly lower. >> hold on, jim. >> one of those cases -- >> hold on. i can tell you that if i were still in congress, i would go on talk radio, and everybody in northwest florida would just be horrified that the president was in a democrats' district in pennsylvania, that would make me collapse and go, oh! i will do something that i think is bad for small business owners all across -- no, actually, i don't mean to be a smart ass here. i don't know who is telling him to do this. i don't get it. >> the best possible scenario. let's say that these campaign-style rallies really work. and that you get -- and it goes, you know, people are going to show up to this are going to be typical obama supporters, but that's okay. but for every republican, it's the same old folks calling in
right now the obama approach is to go hold this rally in philadelphia in allyson schwartz's district, a democrat, and somehow it's going to change the minds of house republican. you've just been re-elected in a year of close to 65 million votes. you're probably going to be okay in which turnout's going to be significantly lower. >> hold on, jim. >> one of those cases -- >> hold on. i can tell you that if i were still in congress, i would go on talk radio, and everybody in...
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well, you're exactly right. you might think that the fiscal uncertainty would be driving gold higher about but, instead, just check out this chart. at the lowest level since president obama was re-elected. just now under that $1,700 mark. what's behind the sell-off and is this a buying opportunity? let's start talking futures now. let's start with you, you and rich have been bitten by the gold bug. are you ready to throw in the towel here? >> jackie, i'm not ready yet. usually when you see a day the dollar is as weak as it is, gold is higher. what's happening today is you're seeing a lot of profit taking on gold. it's not profit taking because we're up 9% on the year. traders are worried that some deal with the fiscal cliff will call for higher capital-gains taxes so traders are getting out of their gold positions before that might take effect. >> so profit taking, meantime, rich, what is dipping below the $1,700 mark mean? is that really the right level to be watching? >> well, we gave you the level $ $ $1,706.
well, you're exactly right. you might think that the fiscal uncertainty would be driving gold higher about but, instead, just check out this chart. at the lowest level since president obama was re-elected. just now under that $1,700 mark. what's behind the sell-off and is this a buying opportunity? let's start talking futures now. let's start with you, you and rich have been bitten by the gold bug. are you ready to throw in the towel here? >> jackie, i'm not ready yet. usually when you...
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i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unclear dimension, nobody knows, i don't know, how bad the whirlwinds will be if we fail to do this on time. and one thing for certain, there's no guarantee that a huge drop in faith by the world economic markets will be followed by a quick rebound. as i said, this is a real cliff, not a bungy jump. that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" starts with al sharpton. >>> thanks, chris. it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the man who defined gridlock and was the face of ugliness in the tea party movement. the night of the preside
i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unclear dimension, nobody knows, i don't know, how bad the whirlwinds will be if we fail to do this on time. and one thing for certain, there's no guarantee that a huge drop in faith by the world economic markets will be followed by a quick rebound. as i said, this is a real cliff, not a bungy jump. that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" starts with al...
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many ways you're right. last week i was covering these protests at walmart and i interviewed numerous walmart workers who said we've been there three years, five years, ten years, making $8, $9, $10, $11 an hour. you just put up that number. at costco, if you work there 4 1/2 years you're making generally $20.50 an hour. and then they kick in another $4,000, $5,000 to your 401(k). an amazing thing is the typical costco worker there 4 1/2 years is making as much as the typical walmart assistant store manager. >> steve greenhouse, "new york times." great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> it's over. >> no more twinkies? >> this is it. >> hostess executives demand huge bonuses while 18,000 people get fired. congressman jim mcdermott responds, next. >>> gdp is up, and unemployment is down. and this congress is the most unproductive in history. we'll break down the numbers. >>> and congressman louie gohmert g
many ways you're right. last week i was covering these protests at walmart and i interviewed numerous walmart workers who said we've been there three years, five years, ten years, making $8, $9, $10, $11 an hour. you just put up that number. at costco, if you work there 4 1/2 years you're making generally $20.50 an hour. and then they kick in another $4,000, $5,000 to your 401(k). an amazing thing is the typical costco worker there 4 1/2 years is making as much as the typical walmart assistant...
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we've got to have something to talk about for the rest of the month, right? you have to kind of look at this as sort of a poker game. everybody's going to sort of try to barter for as best a deal as they can get and know they are going to have to make concessions along the way. what he did is he went for it. he said look, i'm going to do $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, only $400 billion in cuts. he conveniently did not cut social security, medicare and medicaid which poll as the most popular programs and things that americans actually want. and if you look at it, 60% of americans actually support the idea of raising taxes and that of course goes beyond those that just voted for him. so he's going with what are the popular issues that i know i can get americans around me and i'm gointo put republicans in a really tight spot where they're going to have to either say look, we're going to make cuts to programs that we know that you like and frankly, they know that it's going to be bad for republicans if a deal doesn't get done. so a lot's still happening behind the s
we've got to have something to talk about for the rest of the month, right? you have to kind of look at this as sort of a poker game. everybody's going to sort of try to barter for as best a deal as they can get and know they are going to have to make concessions along the way. what he did is he went for it. he said look, i'm going to do $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, only $400 billion in cuts. he conveniently did not cut social security, medicare and medicaid which poll as the most popular...
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president obama is speaking out against ongoing unrest in egypt. the white house reports the president has called egyptian president mohamed morsi to express concern about recent protests that have resulted in numerous deaths and injuries, calling the violence unacceptable. president obama did welcome morsi's calls for talks with opposition leaders. this comes after a violent week in cairo. on wednesday night, six were killed and nearly 700 injured in protests outside morsi's palace. >>> north korea may set off a long range rocket as early as this monday. that's according to media reports in south korea. the rocket is reportedly being fueled, but satellite images show that heavy snowfall may be slowing down preparations. north korea says it wants to launch what it calls a peaceful satellite sometime before september 22nd. the u.s. believes the rocket is a cover test missile technology. >>> this morning emergency teams are looking for survivors after a typhoon hit the philippines. more than 400 people are believed to be missing. the powerful typhoon
president obama is speaking out against ongoing unrest in egypt. the white house reports the president has called egyptian president mohamed morsi to express concern about recent protests that have resulted in numerous deaths and injuries, calling the violence unacceptable. president obama did welcome morsi's calls for talks with opposition leaders. this comes after a violent week in cairo. on wednesday night, six were killed and nearly 700 injured in protests outside morsi's palace....
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that's a right he's earned by his re-election. but i have been over the intelligence, the talking points that were given to ambassador rice. i have read over her statements on television that sunday morning over and over again, i met with her, and the acting director of the c. ia, it seems to me that everything she said on those many appearances that sunday morning were within the talking points that she had been given by the intelligence community. look, did one point or another she leave an adjective out or should have put in or been certain about something, she wishes now she had been, of course. but i think if anybody in washington, particularly congress, ought to have a sense of mercy about those kinds of errors because they were not in my opinion, intentional attempts to deceive the american people. she said, basically, what the intelligence community told her was the truth as they tentatively understood it on the day that she went on national television. >> senator, i know you're leaving the senate. are you open to being in
that's a right he's earned by his re-election. but i have been over the intelligence, the talking points that were given to ambassador rice. i have read over her statements on television that sunday morning over and over again, i met with her, and the acting director of the c. ia, it seems to me that everything she said on those many appearances that sunday morning were within the talking points that she had been given by the intelligence community. look, did one point or another she leave an...
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president obama just responded to this. we're live in michigan tonight. >>> and it's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. five-year special financing ends december 10th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. >>> have you joined it the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today everyone was speculating about what jim demint's resignation means with the tea party
president obama just responded to this. we're live in michigan tonight. >>> and it's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in...
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some numbers from my assistant's pc in new york. and before i reached the top, the board meeting became a congrats we sold the company party. wait til my wife's phone hears about this. [ cellphone vibrating ] [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center, working together has never worked so well. i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot?
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. >> right. >> why can't we get that one step accomplished and maybe move on to step two which is a bigger and bolder plan? >> that's what congressional democrats and president obama would like to see happen, and we have a discharge petition, which would bring the bill that has been sent from the senate and pass the senate overwhelmingly sent to the house, take that bill up and give, extend the tax breaks to the middle class and give certainty to the middle class as we move to, continue to move into the holiday season. all of the tax rates expire december 31st and we can deal with the tax breaks for the wealthiest most fortunate americans and others to avoid the fiscal cliff between now and december 31st but take what we agree on which is that the middle class tax cuts should be extended and tax rates should not go up for the middle class, let's do that now. the republicans refuse to do that thus far, which is sort of baffling. even some of their senior members like tom cole from oklahoma have said let's take that deal, but let's pass the tax cuts for the middle class and we're talking abo
. >> right. >> why can't we get that one step accomplished and maybe move on to step two which is a bigger and bolder plan? >> that's what congressional democrats and president obama would like to see happen, and we have a discharge petition, which would bring the bill that has been sent from the senate and pass the senate overwhelmingly sent to the house, take that bill up and give, extend the tax breaks to the middle class and give certainty to the middle class as we move...
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i think it's time right now for president obama to show the american people his full balanced plan. we haven't seen it. democrats haven't passed a budget in over three years. there's not one democrat that has voted for a plan yet. until republicans see the plan from the president, from democrats, it's very difficult for us to be compromising if anything. right now we're just negotiating with ourselves. that's really a pretty bad negotiating strategy. we should stop doing that, we should be talking about not playing brinkmanship. what we should do is extend all the current rates permanently. that would return certainty to the economy. it would restore confidence. and that's probably the biggest thing we need to do to grow our economy. let's quit having these fiscal cliffs. and let's not be threatening government shut downs. let's sit down in a good faith effort and that's what president obama is not doing. he's back on the campaign trail which will is unfortunate. he should be in washington here sitting down in a good faith effort to try and grow the economy. because that's ten times
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so this is a pretty clean case right here for the court to decide whether they decide it on benefits, whether they decide it on the issue of equal protection. the obama administration has already said, it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act can really withhold this kind of a legal attack. so we'll see, but i think the question you raised, deborah, is the question that is before all of us right now. >> and -- >> if i can get a little technical here. there are ways that the supreme court could resolve both of these cases without engaging the substantive issues. when the court grants certiorari, they have granted in the windsor case, the defense of marriage act case, and the proposition 8 case out of california, they also agreed to decide the question of standing, which is do the -- do the -- are these cases even legitimately before the court? for example, in california, there is now a situation, and it this was the situation when the case was brought, the governor of california, the attorney general of california, all agree that this proposition 8 is uncon
so this is a pretty clean case right here for the court to decide whether they decide it on benefits, whether they decide it on the issue of equal protection. the obama administration has already said, it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act can really withhold this kind of a legal attack. so we'll see, but i think the question you raised, deborah, is the question that is before all of us right now. >> and -- >> if i can get a little technical here....
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some num
, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy...
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the economy, his views on the economy specifically right how giving the looming fiscal cliff. so i suggest -- or i imagine they will discuss that, as well. but do we expect anything larger to come out of this? the white house is managing expectations saying there is really no agenda for this luncheon. it's really to bury the hatchet and to allow the country to move on, as well. >> right now, though, we do know treasury secretary tim geithner as we were telling everyone was on the hill, these marathon meetings with congressional leaders. what more do we know about those meetings? obviously starting off with some of the harder ones at first bhak through nancy pelosi as his last. >> we know the treasury secretary will be heading to the hill with rob nabors. he will be meeting with all of these congressional leaders separately. starting off -- or including house speaker john boehner. of course boehner will be key to moving the needle on these fiscal cliff negotiations. this comes on the heels of a phone call between president obama and speaker boehner which occurred credit. my sou
the economy, his views on the economy specifically right how giving the looming fiscal cliff. so i suggest -- or i imagine they will discuss that, as well. but do we expect anything larger to come out of this? the white house is managing expectations saying there is really no agenda for this luncheon. it's really to bury the hatchet and to allow the country to move on, as well. >> right now, though, we do know treasury secretary tim geithner as we were telling everyone was on the hill,...
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. >>> the stories we're watching right now. closing guantanamo has been on president obama's agenda since he took office four years ago and it might finally become a reality, but where would all the prisoners go? possibly closer than you think. >>> more than 7 million americans suffer from the nightmare of posttramatic stress disorder, but there's a surprising new treatment, one involving the drug known as ecstasy. >>> so how could dating across party lines possibly work out? >>> two winning tickets, almost $200 million new friends we'll soon learn who power ball's newest millionaires are. >>> this surveillance video might find out who one winner might be. >>> "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. thanks for joining us. i'm deb feyerick in for carol costello. just in the big story that we're keeping an eye on for you this morning. a train in new jersey has derailed after a bridge collapsed in the community of paulsboro. the train was carrying some toxic and flammable chemicals. residents in the entire communi
. >>> the stories we're watching right now. closing guantanamo has been on president obama's agenda since he took office four years ago and it might finally become a reality, but where would all the prisoners go? possibly closer than you think. >>> more than 7 million americans suffer from the nightmare of posttramatic stress disorder, but there's a surprising new treatment, one involving the drug known as ecstasy. >>> so how could dating across party lines possibly...
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the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican mary bono mack will join us as well. also, carlos gutierrez. former giants runningback tiki barber is with us in the studio. it's monday, december 3rd, and "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. our team joining us around the table. barbara starr, cnn's pentagon correspondent. we were talking this morning, it has been literally four years since we've seen each other in person. >> last time i saw you was inauguration day. >> we talk all the time. in person, four years. kamau bell is a median. new york congresswoman nan hayworth. alina cho sticking around to h
the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican...
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, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. this december, remember -- m] you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. ends december
, who spent 86% of the pro-obama ads were trashing romney personally. so he won the right not to be romney but he didn't win the power to impose anything he wants. >> okay. hold that thought. robert, i want you to hold your response until we come back after the break. you've got about two minutes to make this really, really good. this december, remember -- m] you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the...
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would not -- wouldn't you address the spending -- wouldn't you address the spending side of -- >> right. >> -- and, you know, the republicans are trying to criticize the obama proposals by saying you're not cutting spending, you're not coming to us on entitlements, but it's falling flat. no one's really listening and the white house has controlled the debate that it's all about the upper 2%. the first thing in texas you do is shrink the size of government, wouldn't you? >> well, we did that. we faced a substantial budget shortfall. we have a constitutional amendment that requires us to have a balanced budget, which frankly america needs that. >> i don't know what would happen. >> most states have that. >> the states that are -- i would suggest to you the states that are doing better economically have a constitutional amendment that requires them to balance their budget. so, we had to deal with that in the early 2000s. and interestingly, it was the first time since the 19th century, since back about 1870, that there were all republicans, republican speaker, republican house, republican l
would not -- wouldn't you address the spending -- wouldn't you address the spending side of -- >> right. >> -- and, you know, the republicans are trying to criticize the obama proposals by saying you're not cutting spending, you're not coming to us on entitlements, but it's falling flat. no one's really listening and the white house has controlled the debate that it's all about the upper 2%. the first thing in texas you do is shrink the size of government, wouldn't you? >>...
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president obama said this: >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that is relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we'reling going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner's counter offer yesterday to president obama which included a mythical increase in tax revenue of $800 billion obtained by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax deductions was taken seriously by no one in the senate except republican jim demipt. speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is
president obama said this: >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that is relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we'reling going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker...
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voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and perhaps in the 2016 presidential election. we already hear some rumblings about perry getting back into the race, santorum -- >> oh, lord help us, no. please. >> i swear. >> please, no, not the return of rick perry. you cannot be serious. >> i swear to you. >> oh, lord. okay, jimmy, mr. cuccinelli, he sued over obama care, lost. sued the epa, lost. is there anything more dangerous to a political party than a leader who consistently picks fight he loses? >> how many times do you have to lose to be kaumd a loser. >> right. >> let's be honest about this, you have -- an
voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and...
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i asked the mayors, they said we went to business and said, what do you need to make this right? and i wish the obama administration would -- >> indiana and illinois. >> the key thing for business competitivene competitiveness with regard to health care, it's the slowest on record. now, you could -- >> it's the recession. >> it could be. >> the slow growth -- >> that wouldn't explain all of it. it does feel like -- of course we need more data points. >> it sharply outpaces inflation. >> not in the last two years. >> it's come down. >> not if you are somebody who is at a small company who is -- >> business is -- the most important there is the growth in the cost of health care. if this is helping to bend the cost curve -- >> if you talk to small businesses, they are looking at double digit increases. the tale of two worlds here. >> people that are 45 -- >> talk to any business person, they're adjusting and the health care industry's adjusting. >> we've got to go. >> we should have a longer conversation on this. >> yes, absolutely. >>> coming up, more data still ahead. we'll get th
i asked the mayors, they said we went to business and said, what do you need to make this right? and i wish the obama administration would -- >> indiana and illinois. >> the key thing for business competitivene competitiveness with regard to health care, it's the slowest on record. now, you could -- >> it's the recession. >> it could be. >> the slow growth -- >> that wouldn't explain all of it. it does feel like -- of course we need more data points. >>...
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>> well, you know, i just echo what everybody has said right up to president obama, that it's unacceptable for us to allow iran to become a nuclear state, that containment is not an acceptable alternative for all the reasons we know. i think that's absolutely right. it changes the whole balance of power in the middle east, it emboldens the terrorists like hamas and hezbollah that are agents of the iranian government. it probably, unless we're strong, leads some of our allies in the arab world to begin to accommodate to iran, and it's a threat to most of the rest of the world, including us. so, you know, the sanctions have been unprecedented, they're having an effect on the iranian economy -- so far not an observable effect on the iranian regime at all. and so i think we have to make sure that our threat of military action if they don't take down their nuclear weapons program is credible to them. i'm still not sure it is. but they've got to believe that the u.s. will use our immense power to disable their nuclear program if they don't do it themselves. >> senator kyl -- >> may i just interr
>> well, you know, i just echo what everybody has said right up to president obama, that it's unacceptable for us to allow iran to become a nuclear state, that containment is not an acceptable alternative for all the reasons we know. i think that's absolutely right. it changes the whole balance of power in the middle east, it emboldens the terrorists like hamas and hezbollah that are agents of the iranian government. it probably, unless we're strong, leads some of our allies in the arab...
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but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day. what did he focus on? he focused on jobs, on proving that conservatism actually helped all americans, not 53%, not 47%. and yesterday when i talked to jim demint on the phone, i expected to hear one thing. instead i heard another. which is we've all been chained to this republican message. we have got to prove again that conservatism helps all americans. we've done a terrible job delivering that message. we've elected leaders that don't believe in that message. and he talked, just like eric cantor talk ed again, not about ideology, but instead saying, how do we s
but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day....
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let me tell you, president obama won bigger than bush was re-elected in 2004. >> that's right. >> they keep talking about a close election. in 2012, this year, president obama received 50.9% of the vote. mr. bush only received 50.7. so president obama was re-elected by a wider margin than george bush was. some fluke. but then you have strategist stewart stevens even defending romney's claim that president obama used gifts to win the election. listen to this, karen. >> i don't think that's what he was saying. i think he was saying that there's an effort that the incumbent used, as many other incumbents have used, to reach out to constituents. that's something that we've seen in politics going back to a long time. they did it effectively and they have certain groups that they wanted to do well with and they did well. >> that's utterly nonsense. that's intelligence of the public. he was not talking about the traditional way. he was saying, as they said throughout the campaign, he was giving things away, handouts, which was an insult to the president and to those constituent groups and the
let me tell you, president obama won bigger than bush was re-elected in 2004. >> that's right. >> they keep talking about a close election. in 2012, this year, president obama received 50.9% of the vote. mr. bush only received 50.7. so president obama was re-elected by a wider margin than george bush was. some fluke. but then you have strategist stewart stevens even defending romney's claim that president obama used gifts to win the election. listen to this, karen. >> i don't...
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all right. >> listening to president obama out of hatfield, pennsylvania. he is at a toy company that makes toys similar to leggos, children's toys. he wants to bring his case directly to the american people to travel to be there in front of real folks to make his case for avoiding the fiscal cliff and also his treasury secretary as well going up on the hill talking to members of congress essentially putting forward his plan that would require tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. it is something that republicans are not pleased with. we expect republicans' response very soon. we're iffing to bring that to you live. if you would like to continue listening to the speech, go to cmn.com/live and continue to listen to the president. up next we are also focussing on another story. each year thousands of young british girls lured into a world of sex abuse. we're going to take a look at how predators, they're using gifts, alcohol, social media to gain the trust of their victims. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken po
all right. >> listening to president obama out of hatfield, pennsylvania. he is at a toy company that makes toys similar to leggos, children's toys. he wants to bring his case directly to the american people to travel to be there in front of real folks to make his case for avoiding the fiscal cliff and also his treasury secretary as well going up on the hill talking to members of congress essentially putting forward his plan that would require tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. it is...
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for his part, president obama is trying to break that stalemate by asking voters to put more pressure on the republicans. cnn chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and chief political correspondent gloria borger join us right now. gloria, guess i'll start with you. does the president have any leverage? >> he has a lot of leverage right now. i mean, if you look back to the debt ceiling in the summer of 2011, you recall the president was accused of negotiating with himself because it was sort of a time of weakness for him. right now, look, joe, he's just won re-election. 67% of the american public according to our polls believes that there should be a deal that contains a combination of spending cuts and tax increases. more than half of the american public says, you know what, we'd like the taxes on the wealthy to go up. so he does have public opinion on his side. just been re-elected. so he feels like, you know, he's got the wind at his back so to speak. >> jessica yellin, when you look at the situation a lot of democrats on capitol hill are suggesting they're ready to go over
for his part, president obama is trying to break that stalemate by asking voters to put more pressure on the republicans. cnn chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and chief political correspondent gloria borger join us right now. gloria, guess i'll start with you. does the president have any leverage? >> he has a lot of leverage right now. i mean, if you look back to the debt ceiling in the summer of 2011, you recall the president was accused of negotiating with himself because...
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right now mr. bush is in stable condition and is expected to go home by the weekend. >>> the obama administration has an ambitious road map to reduce the spread of aids. today secretary of state hillary clinton outlined the goal to work towards an aids- free generation. she echoed the administration's commitment to support research on technology for prevention and treatment. >> we'll set clear measurable benchmarks and monitor our progress towards them so we can focus our funding on what works. it is science that has brought us to this point. it is science that will allow us to finish this job. >> about 34 million people worldwide are living with hiv. by the way, world aids day is saturday. >>> if the storm damages your home will your insurance cover you? coming up in tonight's consumerwatch, how companies expect you to be pro-active and the type of damage insurance won't cover. >> flood watches are already issued for portion of the bay area. i'll show you which ones and i'll show you doppler radar
right now mr. bush is in stable condition and is expected to go home by the weekend. >>> the obama administration has an ambitious road map to reduce the spread of aids. today secretary of state hillary clinton outlined the goal to work towards an aids- free generation. she echoed the administration's commitment to support research on technology for prevention and treatment. >> we'll set clear measurable benchmarks and monitor our progress towards them so we can focus our funding...
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we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week we made a got faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and it included additional revenue. and, frankly, it was the balanced approach that the president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> okay. let's talk about that response from the white house. dan loatthian has been covering that story for us. will it be forthcoming? >> reporter: they did get that offer and the response from the white house was, quote, magic beings and fairy dust. that's how he feels about that. you
we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week...
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let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so, you know, in my darker moments, i think we're going over it, and what if we went over it and the world didn't end? that would be kind of interesting. we'd take a big bite out of the deficit and everybody's taxes would go up, but i think the sun would come up tomorrow. >> huh. >> we may find out. >> okay, little orphan annie. >> so, gene, do you think right now that's you advise the president to do if the republicans don't come forward with more specifics? >> if i'm advising the president right now i'm advising him to wait a while. and that maybe when we get closer to the date, the calendar will concentrate the minds of many people in washington and a conversation will be more fruitful. >> all right.
let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so, you know, in my darker moments, i think we're going over it, and what if we went over it and the world didn't end?...